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GRAW backlash: "1200 MS Points? Kiss my ass"


That low, droning whine you hear is the predictable response to the price of the Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter's Chapter 2 Expansion pack, now available for download on Marketplace. Here's what you get for 1200 MS Points:
  • Continuation of the multiplayer Co-op campaign with 4 all-new missions in Chapter 2
  • 8 revisited, relit multiplayer Adversarial maps
  • 2 all-new game types with 1 new game mode – Team Battle
  • 2 new camouflage patterns
  • 4 new character customization faces
  • 5 new weapons
Holy crap! 1200 MS Points! That's  171.75 Pesos, 576.453 Thai Baht or $15 American Dollars, the most expensive downloadable content we've seen so far.  I think your level of acceptance/disgust with Ubisoft's Ghost gouging depends on whether you convince yourself this content is a true expansion pack ( the kind you used to pay $20 or $30 on an old-fashioned disc) or glorified horse armour. Team Xbox's hands-on will help you make up your mind. Of course, some people over at Major Nelson's complaint repository already have. Sample quote:

"1200 MS Points? Kiss my ass."

How many people will be shelling out for this relatively expensive expansion? Also, can somebody tell me what the PC people are getting for free?

[Thanks Andy]

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1. Fuck you, Ubisoft. Micropayments for small things are bad, Macropayments for small things are worse.

Posted at 4:47AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Klintor 0 stars

2. interesting. i cant wait to see peoples reactions to the price.

Posted at 5:06AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Jef 0 stars

3. Lets see how long it is before they try that on again! All the "content" is is a bit of code tweaking, a few more maps and some textures, not exactally what anyone would call full expansion, more like a mod.

Posted at 5:07AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by KineticOnline 0 stars

4. That's about 1100 more than I'd be willing to give.
I loved the first GR. I have bought every "Tom Clancy" game since rainbow six on PC. The games get worse ; the prices get higher.

I think I'll wait for GR4 (maybe a used copy)

Posted at 5:20AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Neal G 0 stars

5. Just to be fair, Bankshot Billiards is also 1200 Points.

It is also the reason I don't own it.

Posted at 5:32AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Morgon 4 stars

6. now eberyine will see how sony will be providing the ps3 live service for free... exspect X2 on the ps3

Posted at 6:10AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by mike 0 stars

7. 1. Congrats on being the last site on the net to report on it. Fan-boy site my ass...

2. Price is fine by me considering how large it is. $15 is reasonable to me, 1/4 the cost of a new game.

3. I want my fucking money back! I've had this damn thing downloading for 11 hours and it's only at 51% completed. There is no excuse for this BS! When one pays for not only the online service, but to also pay for the extra content, one expects a certain level of service. There should be a mass organised class action suit filed over this crap since MS will refuse any and all refund requests.

Posted at 6:11AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by MrHorse 0 stars

8. Too much. 500 was a gimme, 800 would have been reasonable, 1200 is for the hardcore only.

Posted at 7:21AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by J.Goodwin 0 stars

9. LoL... now you cry... now...

All before you people where like 65 dollars is just the new price of games... you say -ok (no problem)

xbox live is not free.. it cost 69.99 bucks for 12 months at amazon.. you say -ok (no problem)

Now let me get this straight I already bought the game and now to get the game icons on my live account I got to pay..lol you say -ok (no problem)

And now drums please.... they release an expansion pack for $15 dollars and now you cry... Now... why the hell wouldn't they you pay for everything else... you did it to yourself, you only have yourself to blame... This moment in gaming ripoff's (Priceless)

Posted at 8:22AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Crazyglues 1 star

10. Ubisoft ruined Splinter Cell and Rainbows Dix. Now Ubi has formally ruined Ghost Recon. I will never buy another Ubisoft game again.

For other game developers, this is good news. Those f-ing frenchies are going to help their competition. I guess $60 wasn't enough for Ubi when it came to GRAW. I knew I should have bought the PC version. $10 cheaper and additional content free.

The one thing GRAW-Live players could have counted on from Ubi (free additional d/l content) has just been put on the street corner like cheap whore.

Posted at 8:22AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by GhostDoggy 0 stars

11. You guys sound like $15 is a hell of a lot of money. Get a job then instead of complaining $15 is nothing.

Posted at 8:43AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Scott 0 stars

12. I have no problems with the pricing of this content. When compared to other forms of entertainment out there, $15 for content I'll use over the next 6-12 months is incredible value compared to what I might pay for cable/satellite, going to a movie, or even a week's worth of mochafrappacafelattes. The availability of content like this (even at this price point) was one of my key considerations in buying into the 360 concept to begin with.

Posted at 8:44AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by VitaminDave 0 stars

13. Hey everyone still trying to download cancel it turn your 360 off and start it all back up because mine is now done and when I restarted like 20 minutes ago it was only at 59% so yeah restart everything because mine went a hell of alot faster

Posted at 9:11AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Zacky V 0 stars

14. Now the $15 price tag makes this d/l too much for it to be worth it to me, but i would like to point out that you could have waited..oh...like a month to pick up GRAW and gotten it for ~$15 cheaper like i did. It's a heck of a lot less of an investment.

Also, can you play the co-op missions single player? I know that sound like an oxymoron, but I wanna know.

Posted at 9:15AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Gestault 0 stars

15. MrHorse is MrGwumpy. Who needs a hug?

Posted at 9:18AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by C. Grant 0 stars

16. 1. Are there any extra acheivement points that you can earn?
2. If many of us balk at the price (i.e. horse armor) then maybe the price will come down (later) or next time UBI will give us more value for the money.

Posted at 9:19AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Carlos 0 stars

17. Ok I need to set things straight the PC content IS NOT I repeat IS NOT the same as the 360's.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=141686

Posted at 9:35AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Zacky V 0 stars

18. Mr. Grant.... we all need hugs.

Update: the download is done, not gonna play the co-op missions though as others are sleepin.

Posted at 9:42AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by MrHorse 0 stars

19. It's not horse armor, but it's not a full expansion either.

Two things. I think it is too soon to release an expansion. It just makes it look like you withheld material from the release game to create an expansion. Also, I think they should have held off until they had more content. Then if they charged $20 for it, people wouldn't gripe as much.

Lastly, there is no need to be upset. If you don't think it is worth the price, don't buy it. If you don't think gamer icons are worth 25 or 50 cents each, don't buy them. If a majority of people feel the same way, the price will come down. If you are in a small minority minority (under say 30%) then you have to lump it or leave it.

It really is that simple. There is so much needless anger floating around. One thing is certain. Buying it AND griping about it, is stupid.

Posted at 9:43AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by Thomas Crymes 7 stars

20. I don't know, it does seem a bit pricey. $15? I don't consider the new re-lit maps new content. They are a nice bonus, but how much work was it to just change the lighting scheme on those? New weapons? Nice, but there are only a few and over-all they're a small change. The big deal is the new Co-op maps and I don't see those justifying a $15 price tag, I just don't.

Posted at 9:44AM on Jun 23rd 2006 by tanis38 0 stars

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